Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

enabling us to pursue them into their native consequences

English answer:

enabling us to follow up all the implications

Added to glossary by Ana Juliá
Jul 26, 2004 10:51
19 yrs ago
English term

enabling us to pursue them into their native consequences

English Art/Literary Religion Commentary on Proverbs
Proverbs 16:21: "The wise in heart shall be called prudent: and the sweetness of the lips increaseth learning."

That our wisdom may be useful we should endeavor to produce it to advantage, by a graceful and engaging manner of expression. It is not uncommon with bad men to set off their corrupt sentiments by dressing them in all the beauties of language, and by this means multitudes are seduced into error and folly. Is not wisdom far better entitled to this recommendation than folly? ***The expression of our thoughts in proper language will increase learning, by making them more clear and distinct to ourselves, and thus enabling us to pursue them into their native consequences.*** And learning will be diffused among others while it is conveyed to them in a clear and engaging manner.

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DGK T-I Jul 26, 2004:
interesting point
Non-ProZ.com Jul 26, 2004:
Maybe in the 19th century Maybe in the 19th century people were used to that way of talking.
Kevin Pfeiffer (X) Jul 26, 2004:
Someone wrote: "In other words, clear writing leads to clear thinking." If only the author had followed his own advice. ;-)

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enabling us to follow up all the implications

My interpretation this sentence is :

By expressing our thoughts in clear and concise language, we ourselves become wiser. Not only will we understand the real meaning more clearly and distinctly, but we (and others) will therefore be able to pursue and work out all the implications inherent in our thinking.

The key point here I think is that the expression "native consequences" can best be understood as "implications."

In other words, clear writing leads to clear thinking. If only our translation customers realised that more often . . .

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Peer comment(s):

agree DGK T-I : Collins Dictionary: "native (adj.) inherent, natural, or innate, example: a native strength"
2 hrs
agree Alfa Trans (X)
4 days
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allowing us to continue the natural thinking process

If you put your thoughts in proper language, you will be able to lead that train of thought to its natural conclusion. Presumably, without the proper expression, the thinking process would stray from the natural path because it would be cluttered with unnecessary words.

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Note added at 10 mins (2004-07-26 11:02:11 GMT)
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If learning is thinking with the purpose of discovering the truth of something, these thoughts must be expressed in proper language. Otherwise they will be contaminated with verbal garbage and will not lead to the truth.
Peer comment(s):

agree Vicky Papaprodromou
10 mins
thanx!
agree George Rabel : something like that. If only this preacher practiced what he preached! What a classic example of "Do as I say, not as I do"!!!
40 mins
LOL! it seems he lives by the motto "cloud it up, they will think you really know what you are talking about"
agree lindaellen (X) : amen
1 hr
hallelujah!
agree Eva Olsson
1 hr
thanx!
agree DGK T-I : Collins Dictionary: "native (adj.) inherent, natural, or innate, example: a native strength"
2 hrs
thank you
agree Orla Ryan
3 hrs
thanx!
agree Asghar Bhatti
3 hrs
thanx!
agree Eva Karpouzi
13 hrs
thanx!
agree sarahl (X)
13 hrs
thanx!
neutral Josef Schmid, Jr. (X) : This text in English is a translation of a translation, don't you think? Some of the phrases wander purposelessly!
1 day 53 mins
the asker has indicated the text dates back to over a century ago... that might explain it
neutral Refugio : I don't think that native (natural) refers to the thinking process used to ponder the thoughts in question, but rather to the inherent implications of the ideas. Answer to your question? By using the adjective 'natural' to modify thinking process.
1 day 1 hr
i don't either, and i cannot see where i've stated that it does. would appreciate it if you pointed that out ADDED: okay, but "thinking process" is not the same as "pondering the thoughts in question", but rather "continuations of the very same thoughts"
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1 day 1 hr

allowing us to discuss them in their intrinsic significance

In other words, not to have issues muddied by unclear expression or unintended digressions.
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