May 23, 2008 07:18
16 yrs ago
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French term
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valeurs tutélaires
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Environment & Ecology
Grenelle Environment Forum
For example : les valeurs tutélaires du carbone.
It's all over the place on the net in French but I cannot seem to find an official English equivalent. Obviously it comes from "tutelle" so I suppose it means "official values" or something like that.
An example of use is:
"Les nuisances environnementales de l'automobile"
Les recommandations du rapport Boiteux ayant servi de référence à plusieurs études (valeurs tutélaires des dommages corporels et matériels), les écarts entre l'études du CGPC et de l'INRETS sont faibles. La littérature est cependant riche sur ce sujet et fait apparaître des monétarisations très diverses de la vie humaine. Ces divergences résultent de plusieurs facteurs explicatifs qui peuvent se combiner :
- Champ pris en compte dans une approche par le coût des dommages : coûts médicaux et sociaux, coûts matériels, frais généraux, perte de production annuelle pour la collectivité, préjudice moral... ;
- Montant retenu pour la valeur tutélaire : pour une personne tuée, pour une personne blessée (en fonction de la gravité...), pour les dommages matériels ;
- Source des données pour les statistiques des accidents ;
- Année de référence du calcul de l'étude...
It's all over the place on the net in French but I cannot seem to find an official English equivalent. Obviously it comes from "tutelle" so I suppose it means "official values" or something like that.
An example of use is:
"Les nuisances environnementales de l'automobile"
Les recommandations du rapport Boiteux ayant servi de référence à plusieurs études (valeurs tutélaires des dommages corporels et matériels), les écarts entre l'études du CGPC et de l'INRETS sont faibles. La littérature est cependant riche sur ce sujet et fait apparaître des monétarisations très diverses de la vie humaine. Ces divergences résultent de plusieurs facteurs explicatifs qui peuvent se combiner :
- Champ pris en compte dans une approche par le coût des dommages : coûts médicaux et sociaux, coûts matériels, frais généraux, perte de production annuelle pour la collectivité, préjudice moral... ;
- Montant retenu pour la valeur tutélaire : pour une personne tuée, pour une personne blessée (en fonction de la gravité...), pour les dommages matériels ;
- Source des données pour les statistiques des accidents ;
- Année de référence du calcul de l'étude...
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decreed values
I haven't found anything to back this up but have the feeling it's the value that the authorities decide to put on things that are otherwise "priceless" ie the time people spend travelling to work, the cost of carbon etc.
I've found a link with 'social' and 'shadow' costs of carbon...
I've found a link with 'social' and 'shadow' costs of carbon...
Note from asker:
| This is precisely what it is - whether the translation is the official answer to the problem, I really don't know |
3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "again - not for a translation job but for simple interest. I agree with the notion of "decreed" or "officially established/set""
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Etienne Muylle Wallace
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protecting values
tutélaire veut dire 'qui tient sous sa protection' selon le Larousse
Une simple proposition
Une simple proposition
Note from asker:
| thanks but I think it is more the idea of reference values imposed by the "autorité de tutelle" |
+1
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guideline figures
Just another suggestion. Or perhaps "standard figures"?
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monetary value (of)
monetary value (of)
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threshold values
appears frequently as the accepted term used in this context
PDF] Green Paper on "Liability for Defective Products" COM (1999) 396 ...File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
3) Elimination of threshold value for property damage cases: ... short absolute statutory period of limitation, these types of damages are not covered by ...
ec.europa.eu/enterprise/regulation/goods/docs/liability/1999-greenpaper-replies/005.pdf -
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I have not yet come across a precise fr<>en equivalent for cross referencing purposes and believe this to be a case where one extrapolates from the fact that it is the relevant regulatory bodies (autorité de tutelle) who are responsible for establishing the threshold values as illustrated in the following:
Consideration of, and recommendations regarding the Procurement ...File Format: Microsoft Word - View as HTML
A number of authorities appear to recognise a requirement between obtaining a simple ... In recommending the tender threshold value at £75000 the group have ...
www.nwce.gov.uk/files/Financial_thresholds_Guidance_Sept_20... -
Of course, you could also consider other options like recommended value, which however, may not carry the same weight in the context.
PDF] Green Paper on "Liability for Defective Products" COM (1999) 396 ...File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
3) Elimination of threshold value for property damage cases: ... short absolute statutory period of limitation, these types of damages are not covered by ...
ec.europa.eu/enterprise/regulation/goods/docs/liability/1999-greenpaper-replies/005.pdf -
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-05-23 08:49:53 GMT)
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I have not yet come across a precise fr<>en equivalent for cross referencing purposes and believe this to be a case where one extrapolates from the fact that it is the relevant regulatory bodies (autorité de tutelle) who are responsible for establishing the threshold values as illustrated in the following:
Consideration of, and recommendations regarding the Procurement ...File Format: Microsoft Word - View as HTML
A number of authorities appear to recognise a requirement between obtaining a simple ... In recommending the tender threshold value at £75000 the group have ...
www.nwce.gov.uk/files/Financial_thresholds_Guidance_Sept_20... -
Of course, you could also consider other options like recommended value, which however, may not carry the same weight in the context.
Note from asker:
| I can find the text in English but how does one cross-reference to the equivalent French text? |
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value (can be money), benefits, or compensation specific to
Qui tient sous sa garde, sous sa protection. Un Dieu tutélaire. Le génie tutélaire, les dieux tutélaires d’un empire. Bonté tutélaire. Puissance tutélaire. ...
fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/tutélaire - 20k -
DISABILITY COMPENSATION AND DEATH BENEFITS. Table of Contents .... Safety who is not subject to the federal Insurance Contributions Act for such employment ...
www.cga.ct.gov/2006/sup/Chap065.htm - 21k
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Note added at 2 hrs (2008-05-23 09:55:22 GMT)
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It can be reference value of benefits, or compensation specific to...
fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/tutélaire - 20k -
DISABILITY COMPENSATION AND DEATH BENEFITS. Table of Contents .... Safety who is not subject to the federal Insurance Contributions Act for such employment ...
www.cga.ct.gov/2006/sup/Chap065.htm - 21k
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Note added at 2 hrs (2008-05-23 09:55:22 GMT)
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It can be reference value of benefits, or compensation specific to...
Note from asker:
| thanks for the definition - I had however already trawled the net to find my own salvation before asking this question...... |
Discussion
fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/tutélaire - 20k -
www.let.fr/fr/annuaire/auteurs/download.php?id=45
Montant retenu..... The amount selected for the referrence values???
I think you'll find it's the estimated monetary value/equivalent of an item/product/damage caused etc.etc.