Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
des décès inopinés de feu le ministre Gatabazi et feu Bucyana
English translation:
the untimely death of ministers Gatabazi and Bucyana
French term
des décès inopinés de feu le ministre Gatabazi et feu Bucyana
This is from a document presented as evidence in a trial at the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda. Gatabazi and Bucyana were Rwandan ministers. The audience would be English speaking lawyers.
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Proposed translations
the untimely death of ministers Gatabazi and Bucyana
http://trim.unictr.org/.../[MILITARY%20II]%20-%20NDINDILIYIMANA%20...
May 31, 2007 - Q. Now, with regard to the population, you mentioned deaths, and we're still ..... The second personality who was murdered was Mr. Gatabazi ... A. Mr. Martin B‑U‑C‑Y‑A‑N‑A -- Mr. Martin Bucyana, president of the .... There was fear of what could happen on account of that untimely death ‑‑ that assassination."
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Victoria Britten
: Avec "deaths", pluriel, plutôt. // J'insiste : in English, singular "death" would imply that they had been killed simultaneously (and even in that case we could legitimately use a plural).
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merci!
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Ben Lenthall
: I suppose one should add the word 'late' to include the meaning of 'feu' but since they're dead it would hardly seem necessary!
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thanks - I would indeed advise against using "late".. they are already dead enough, aren't they?
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B D Finch
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thanks!
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schevallier
: avec Victoria, "deaths"
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thanks - But I would keep it singular as in "la mort des ministres", rather than "les morts des ministres"
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Over 20 Years Freelance Translation
Native in: English 
, French
Works in: Italian to English, French to English, English to French, and 9 more.
the nexpected deaths of former ministers Gatabazi and Bucyana
P.S. Sorry for the mess while trying to change the language pair.
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OOPS!
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writeaway
: yup. all that's needed is a literal translation. confirmed by any decent Fr-En dictionary. but the Fr text doesn't refer to 'former' ministers.
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