Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
faute séparable
English translation:
wrongdoing/tort which is separable from (the) functions
Added to glossary by
Steve Melling
Jul 4, 2012 09:04
11 yrs ago
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French term
France
12 years' experience
Native in: English
Works in: French to English, Italian to English, Spanish to English, and 1 more.
faute séparable
French to English
Bus/Financial
Management
companies
Context: Director's Liability.
"Le dirigeant n’est pas lié à l’égard des tiers par un contrat. Par conséquent, la responsabilité personnelle des dirigeants demeure exceptionnelle dans la mesure où les victimes préfèrent s’adresser à la société présumée plus solvable.
Toutefois, les dirigeants peuvent être condamnés à titre personnel envers les tiers s’ils ont commis une **faute séparable** de leurs fonctions et qui leur est imputable personnellement.
La Cour de cassation a précisé quelque cette notion de **faute séparable** (ou détachable) des fonctions en la définissant comme une « faute intentionnelle d’une particulière gravité incompatible avec l’exercice normal des fonctions sociales » (Cass.com. 20-5-2003).
A défaut de pouvoir établir l’existence d’une **faute séparable** des fonctions, le tiers ne peut obtenir réparation de son préjudice qu’en agissant en responsabilité contre la société."
Many thanks.
"Le dirigeant n’est pas lié à l’égard des tiers par un contrat. Par conséquent, la responsabilité personnelle des dirigeants demeure exceptionnelle dans la mesure où les victimes préfèrent s’adresser à la société présumée plus solvable.
Toutefois, les dirigeants peuvent être condamnés à titre personnel envers les tiers s’ils ont commis une **faute séparable** de leurs fonctions et qui leur est imputable personnellement.
La Cour de cassation a précisé quelque cette notion de **faute séparable** (ou détachable) des fonctions en la définissant comme une « faute intentionnelle d’une particulière gravité incompatible avec l’exercice normal des fonctions sociales » (Cass.com. 20-5-2003).
A défaut de pouvoir établir l’existence d’une **faute séparable** des fonctions, le tiers ne peut obtenir réparation de son préjudice qu’en agissant en responsabilité contre la société."
Many thanks.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 | wrongdoing/tort which is separable from (the) functions |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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| 4 | separable fault |
S Kelly
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| 3 | separate tort |
Mathilde Renou
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| 3 | wrong/tort not tied or related to their functions |
mimi 254
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References
| Another ref: |
kashew
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Proposed translations
59 mins
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Native in English
Psychologist, Court-certified legal
Native in: English 
Works in: French to English
Related KudoZ points
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French term (edited):
faute séparable des fonctions
Selected
wrongdoing/tort which is separable from (the) functions
The original uses "séparable" not "séparé" and "de" (des fonctions).
A function which is separable has the capacity to be separated from the functions in question but has not necessarily been separated from them. The distinction must be retained in the English version.
A function which is separable has the capacity to be separated from the functions in question but has not necessarily been separated from them. The distinction must be retained in the English version.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you Ms. Scott-Despaigne.
I went with your rendering."
7 mins
Mathilde Renou
Netherlands
Netherlands
Native in French
Works in field
Netherlands
Translation is not a matter of words...
Native in: French
Works in: English to French, French to English, French, and 1 more.
separate tort
seen in court judgment
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39 mins
wrong/tort not tied or related to their functions
I'd say
4 hrs
separable fault
See below where term used:
This case concerns the circumstances in which members of the management of a company can be held personally liable for harm caused by their actions as managers. Articles 52 and 244 of the Law of 24 July 1966 (now Articles L223-22 and L225-251 of the Commercial Code) provide that directors in the case of a “société anonyme” or the “gérant(s)” in the case of a “société à responsabilité limitée” (the most common forms of limited liability company) are liable to the company or to third parties for, inter alia, faults committed in the course of management. The Court held that liability arises only in the case of faults committed by such managers which are separable from the carrying out of their functions. This decision seems somewhat surprising in the circumstances of this case since the Court held that it had not been shown that the manager in question had committed such a separable fault, even though the basis of the action against him seems to have been a false certificate established by him upon which the plaintiff had relied.
This case concerns the circumstances in which members of the management of a company can be held personally liable for harm caused by their actions as managers. Articles 52 and 244 of the Law of 24 July 1966 (now Articles L223-22 and L225-251 of the Commercial Code) provide that directors in the case of a “société anonyme” or the “gérant(s)” in the case of a “société à responsabilité limitée” (the most common forms of limited liability company) are liable to the company or to third parties for, inter alia, faults committed in the course of management. The Court held that liability arises only in the case of faults committed by such managers which are separable from the carrying out of their functions. This decision seems somewhat surprising in the circumstances of this case since the Court held that it had not been shown that the manager in question had committed such a separable fault, even though the basis of the action against him seems to have been a false certificate established by him upon which the plaintiff had relied.
Reference:
http://www.utexas.edu/law/academics/centers/transnational/work_new/french/table.php?id=96
Reference comments
5 hrs
Reference:
Another ref:
[...] la défense d'un membre du conseil d'administration qui est poursuivi par un tiers pour un acte accompli dans l'exercice de ses fonctions et paie, le cas échéant, pour le préjudice résultant de cet acte, sauf s'il a commis une faute lourde ou une faute personnelle séparable de l'exercice de ses fonctions.
assnat.qc.ca
4.0.31. The institution shall assume the defence of a member of the board of directors who is prosecuted by a third party for an act done in the exercise of the functions of office and pay any damages resulting from that act, unless the board member committed a gross fault or a personal fault separable from those functions.
assnat.qc.ca
assnat.qc.ca
4.0.31. The institution shall assume the defence of a member of the board of directors who is prosecuted by a third party for an act done in the exercise of the functions of office and pay any damages resulting from that act, unless the board member committed a gross fault or a personal fault separable from those functions.
assnat.qc.ca
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