Glossary entry (derived from question below)
français term or phrase:
tannins enveloppés
anglais translation:
all-embracing/mouth-filling tannins
Added to glossary by
Barbara Carrara
Sep 1, 2011 16:30
12 yrs ago
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français term
Canada
tannins enveloppés
français vers anglais
Autre
Vins / œnologie / viticulture
Wine Tasting
Les vignes ont été plantées en 1905; les replantations subséquentes portent l’âge moyen des ceps à une cinquantaine d’années. Le nez de ce (Burgundy) s’exprime par des notes épicées de poivre et de muscade. La richesse du fruit est soulignée par des arômes de cerise bien mûre. Des tannins enveloppés et une légère minéralité marquent sa bouche.
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I also struggled with "enveloppant" here
Sa bouche s’avère déjà particulièrement séduisante, reposant sur une superbe fraîcheur; sa texture est enveloppante. Sa
There's a related question here, but the answer doesn't work for me:
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/wine_oenology_vi...
Thanks for your help!
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I also struggled with "enveloppant" here
Sa bouche s’avère déjà particulièrement séduisante, reposant sur une superbe fraîcheur; sa texture est enveloppante. Sa
There's a related question here, but the answer doesn't work for me:
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/wine_oenology_vi...
Thanks for your help!
Proposed translations
(anglais)
| 3 | all-embracing/mouth-filling tannins |
Barbara Carrara
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| 4 +2 | enveloping tannins |
fionn
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| 4 | thick tannins |
Veronica Coquard
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| 4 | enveloped tannins |
kashew
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| 4 | moderate tannins |
piazza d
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| 3 | tidy tannins |
Rachel Fell
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References
| Enveloppé: |
kashew
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Change log
Sep 7, 2011 16:33: Barbara Carrara Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
53 minutes
Barbara Carrara
Italie
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Works in: anglais vers italien, français vers italien, italien
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all-embracing/mouth-filling tannins
Another two options.
'Château Haut-Brion (Pessac-Leognan) 1st growth- £109.99
Very dense black core to ruby rim. Quite high-toned, mint-edged fruit. Real quality of fruit, forest-berries and deep plummy notes. Some leafy blackcurrant, chocolate and sweet vanillin oak. Again, loaded with high quality fruit on the palate. Very dry, through big, all-embracing tannins and good acidity. Some earthy flavours, density and real structure. Very long. This is swamped by tannins at present but is very classy indeed and should have great ageing potential.'
(http://www.wine-pages.com/organise/bord96_2.htm)
'The wine begins full and round with mouth-filling tannins. The evolution is powerful, yet balanced and smooth, which carries through into a long finish.'
(http://jaqkcellars.com/wine-jaqk-cellars-wine-collection-nap...
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Note added at 56 mins (2011-09-01 17:27:34 GMT)
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Here's a good description of the term,
'Enveloppé (qualité) : un vin enveloppé est un vin dont l’attaque en bouche est puissante et capiteuse et qui enveloppe généreusement le palais ; un vin charnu riche en alcool et dans lequel le moelleux domine.'
(http://www.dico-du-vin.com/enveloppe-degustation-qualite/)
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Note added at 6 days (2011-09-07 16:32:15 GMT) Post-grading
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Thank you, Pablo, and... santé!
Barbara
'Château Haut-Brion (Pessac-Leognan) 1st growth- £109.99
Very dense black core to ruby rim. Quite high-toned, mint-edged fruit. Real quality of fruit, forest-berries and deep plummy notes. Some leafy blackcurrant, chocolate and sweet vanillin oak. Again, loaded with high quality fruit on the palate. Very dry, through big, all-embracing tannins and good acidity. Some earthy flavours, density and real structure. Very long. This is swamped by tannins at present but is very classy indeed and should have great ageing potential.'
(http://www.wine-pages.com/organise/bord96_2.htm)
'The wine begins full and round with mouth-filling tannins. The evolution is powerful, yet balanced and smooth, which carries through into a long finish.'
(http://jaqkcellars.com/wine-jaqk-cellars-wine-collection-nap...
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Note added at 56 mins (2011-09-01 17:27:34 GMT)
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Here's a good description of the term,
'Enveloppé (qualité) : un vin enveloppé est un vin dont l’attaque en bouche est puissante et capiteuse et qui enveloppe généreusement le palais ; un vin charnu riche en alcool et dans lequel le moelleux domine.'
(http://www.dico-du-vin.com/enveloppe-degustation-qualite/)
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Note added at 6 days (2011-09-07 16:32:15 GMT) Post-grading
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Thank you, Pablo, and... santé!
Barbara
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks for your help and useful ref."
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12 minutes
enveloping tannins
Odd but there are plenty of relevant results for this.
Example sentence:
Three years maturation results in supple, enveloping tannins that provide structure without aggression.
Spicy, berries, medicinal herbs, smooth in mouth, warm with fine and enveloping tannins, long and repeated the final with fruity hints,
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Peer comment(s):
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Michele Fauble
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Merci Michele
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kashew
: Although I think its the tannins that are enveloped.
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Veronica Coquard
France
France
Native in anglais
Specializes in field
France
Votre élégance révélée à sa juste valeur
Native in: anglais (Variants: UK, US)
Works in: français vers anglais, anglais
thick tannins
I'll check to see if I can find some other term, as wine terminology can be a bit strange sometimes...
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Note added at 12 mins (2011-09-01 16:43:18 GMT)
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"Full-bodied" might be another idea.
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Note added at 13 mins (2011-09-01 16:44:03 GMT)
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Here are a couple of glossaries that I have on hand:
http://zebra.sc.edu/smell/wine_glossary.html#full_bodied
http://world-food-and-wine.com/describing-wine
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Note added at 15 mins (2011-09-01 16:46:14 GMT)
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Oops, I just saw that "full-bodied was the answer given in the entry you say you can't use.
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Note added at 16 mins (2011-09-01 16:47:14 GMT)
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...On the other hand, why not? "full-bodied texture" (in your second occurence) sounds particularly natural.
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Note added at 41 mins (2011-09-01 17:12:34 GMT)
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Clain mentions "plump", another good term. Avoid "fat" though, which is only a compliment for sweet whites.
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Note added at 12 mins (2011-09-01 16:43:18 GMT)
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"Full-bodied" might be another idea.
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Note added at 13 mins (2011-09-01 16:44:03 GMT)
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Here are a couple of glossaries that I have on hand:
http://zebra.sc.edu/smell/wine_glossary.html#full_bodied
http://world-food-and-wine.com/describing-wine
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Note added at 15 mins (2011-09-01 16:46:14 GMT)
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Oops, I just saw that "full-bodied was the answer given in the entry you say you can't use.
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Note added at 16 mins (2011-09-01 16:47:14 GMT)
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...On the other hand, why not? "full-bodied texture" (in your second occurence) sounds particularly natural.
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Note added at 41 mins (2011-09-01 17:12:34 GMT)
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Clain mentions "plump", another good term. Avoid "fat" though, which is only a compliment for sweet whites.
Note from asker:
| Thanks |
3 heures
enveloped tannins
Linguee showed up:
Fattiness allows tannins that are a little too harsh in a red wine to be softened by enveloping them.
Anglais : www.cave-cleebourg.com/uk/degustation.php
Le gras peut permettre d'assouplir des tanins un peu trop rêches d'un vin rouge en les enveloppant.
Français : www.cave-cleebourg.com/fr/degustation.php
Fattiness allows tannins that are a little too harsh in a red wine to be softened by enveloping them.
Anglais : www.cave-cleebourg.com/uk/degustation.php
Le gras peut permettre d'assouplir des tanins un peu trop rêches d'un vin rouge en les enveloppant.
Français : www.cave-cleebourg.com/fr/degustation.php
Note from asker:
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4 heures
moderate tannins
... a suggestion! ( as I understand it, "enveloppé" (for tannin) means "not too acid, not too present in mouth")
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as for "texture enveloppante", it's different. In this case I would use mouth-filling.
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Note added at 4 hrs (2011-09-01 21:10:07 GMT)
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as for "texture enveloppante", it's different. In this case I would use mouth-filling.
Note from asker:
| Thanks, and the note is helpful as well! |
5 heures
Rachel Fell
Royaume-Uni
Royaume-Uni
Native in anglais
Works in field
Royaume-Uni
Thorough, knowledgeable and resourceful
Native in: anglais (Variant: UK)
Works in: français vers anglais, espagnol vers anglais, italien vers anglais, and 4 more.
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tidy tannins
his oak-aged wine (mixture of new and one to four year old French oak) offers layers of fruit and leather on the palate. A long finish with tidy tannins.
http://iconwinesbc.blogspot.com/2010/05/best-of-bc-pinot-noi...
(casks) nicely full red; plenty of life in the bouquet, which has a herbal, plum air – good and promising vigour, not too sweet, well-directed, with some grilled airs as well. The palate is very pure – there is a good strike of fruit through this – it rolls along well. Has tidy tannins, and builds well. It is just a bit clipped and narrow as it ends, but can move into shape there
http://www.rhonewineholidays.com/blog/
'caressing' might be OK for 'enveloppante'
http://iconwinesbc.blogspot.com/2010/05/best-of-bc-pinot-noi...
(casks) nicely full red; plenty of life in the bouquet, which has a herbal, plum air – good and promising vigour, not too sweet, well-directed, with some grilled airs as well. The palate is very pure – there is a good strike of fruit through this – it rolls along well. Has tidy tannins, and builds well. It is just a bit clipped and narrow as it ends, but can move into shape there
http://www.rhonewineholidays.com/blog/
'caressing' might be OK for 'enveloppante'
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Reference comments
3 heures
Reference:
Enveloppé:
se dit d'un vin présantant beaucoup de gras, de moelleux. - Gilbert & Gaillard
"Les tanins soyeux et charnus évoluent avec finesse et équilibre, enveloppés par d'élégantes notes boisées."
"Les tanins soyeux et charnus évoluent avec finesse et équilibre, enveloppés par d'élégantes notes boisées."
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