Jun 17, 2013 14:13
10 yrs ago
German term

Reflexionsgestalt

German to English Social Sciences Religion
Die weitergehende Säkularisierung der Gesellschaft hat zu einem Akzeptanzverlust des christlichen Glaubens und seiner Reflexionsgestalt, der Theologie, geführt.

(Aus einem Vortrag, der an einer Uni gehalten werden soll. Es geht um die Kirche in der späten Moderne...)
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intellectual reflection

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German term (edited): seine Reflexionsgestalt
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its ratiocinative manifestation/spin-off/by-product

The increasingly secular nature of society has led to a loss of acceptance for the Christian faith and (by association) for its ratiocinative manifestation, theology.

ratiocination (EN) = Reflexion
http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/ratiocination.html

ratiocination (plural ratiocinations)
1. Reasoning, conscious deliberate inference; the activity or process of reasoning.
2. Thought or reasoning that is exact, valid and rational.
3. A proposition arrived at by such thought.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ratiocination

ra•ti•oc•i•na•tive adj.
Of, relating to, marked by, or skilled in methodical and logical reasoning.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ratiocinative

Gestalt {f}
shape
guise [appearance]
cast
stature
form
gestalt (psych.)
http://www.dict.cc/deutsch-englisch/Gestalt.html


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Reflexion(DE): reflection (EN)?

‘Reflecting’ on religion is an activity that might be appropriate for a poet. Academics who make a living from researching and analysing the phenomenon of religion (i.e. theologians) would not be pleased to be told that they were merely ‘reflecting’ on their area of specialisation.

I have been asked to come up with a solution that has fewer syllables (presumably on the basis that those attending or subsequently reading the lecture might be challenged by ‘big words’): its more learned guise

The increasingly secular nature of society has led to a loss of acceptance for the Christian faith and (by association) for its more learned guise of theology.

The given context suggests that the author may be worried about the diminishing role and standing of theology in universities.


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or to put it another way:
the Christian faith (which you don't have to be an intellectual to profess) and its academic counterpart, theology (in which you can get a professorship)
Peer comment(s):

neutral philgoddard : Eleven syllables! That's a bit of a mouthful, and "spinoff" and "byproduct" are too colloquial and dismissive.//Nope. And reductionism is better than expansionism in my opinion.
2 hrs
Your own suggestion takes reductionism to a new level. Don't you think there might be more to 'Reflexion' than just 'reflection'?
agree oa_xxx (X) : Wow, what a great word, I have never heard of it before and therefore can't really agree or disagree but thank you for bringing it to my attention! ;) I do like your ideas so will agree - I also thought of academic counterpart, thoa bit tame in comparison
7 hrs
You're welcome. I've updated my answer with a trisyllabic alternative for those suffering from hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you! The shorter, easier version seems appropriate for the function of the text!"
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projected image/face

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'Widespread secularization has resulted in a declining/dwindling acceptance of Christian faith and its projected image/face, theology."
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45 mins

figure of reflection

This is a term used in literary theory; I guess that is the tenor of the text you are translating.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=MhbSUDcdoD8C&pg=PA172&lpg...

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http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=iFHXBjgI4BkC&pg=PA139&dq=...

Despite a divide between Sartre’s concern for the Jews and a
mauvaise foi regarding actual action taken, his concern with the Jewish Question
proved always fruitful and always telling—especially in the links he drew between
the Jew as a figure of reflection and the text as a point of reflection.
http://wesscholar.wesleyan.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1...
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reflection

My first instinct is to leave it out "seine Reflexionsgestalt" and say "Christian belief and theology", on the grounds that you don't need to explain what theology is, any more than you need to say that secularisation has led to a decline in Christian faith.

However, if you want to include the idea of reflection, you could say "Christian belief and theological reflection".
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object of study

as I see it.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theology

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Society's deepening secularization has led to an intolerance/loss of tolerance of the Christian faith and it's object of study, theology.

Akzeptanzverlust - I'm wavering here, as it could mean less parishoners

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and of course, intolerance TOWARDS the Christian faith.......was moving to fast, there.

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Society's deepening secularization has led to (a dwindling) interest in the Christian faith (dwindling) and its basis of study, theology.

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Society's deepening secularization has led to a dwindling interest in the Christian faith and its foundation of meditation/reflection.
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agree oa_xxx (X) : study, inquiry, scholarly something or other!
4 hrs
meditation, reflection, instigation, operation, talkin' 'bout my g-genartion. My goodness, it's HOT! thanks, Orla, keep cool.
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Reference comments

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Reference:

intellectual reflection

It is quite evident that economics did not grow as a direct off-shoot of natural science... It obviously sprang—and as an unusually autonomous approach—from something in the nature of its age and its area—the age and area of the incipient industrial revolution.

There just had come to be more economic behavior there and then and of greater variety, strength, and influence, than before; and the science of economics developed as its intellectual reflection. It described and analyzed the many new and important facts of economic behavior in northwestern Europe around the turn of the eighteenth century.
http://rbedrosian.com/NFactors/Kroeber_aalah08.pdf

...a lack of understanding of the basic Christian faith (and its intellectual reflection in theology) and, frankly, a degree of arrogance when it comes to (re)defining that faith

...In the history of philosophy the systems of the seventeenth century had an especially compensatory purpose. The same ratio which, in unison with the interests of the bourgeois class, smashed the feudal order of society and its intellectual reflection, scholastic ontology, into rubble...
from Negative Dialectics - into the pill

...which again, is not religion itself, but its intellectual reflection...
http://books.google.de/books?id=qy9_26zGzVYC&pg=PA24&lpg=PA2...
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Reflexion
(bildungssprachlich) das Nachdenken; Überlegung, prüfende Betrachtung

Synonyme
Bedenken, Besinnung, Betrachtung, Denken, Erwägung, Nachdenken, Überlegung, Versenkung; (gehoben) Nachsinnen, Sinnen; (bildungssprachlich) Kontemplation
From Duden
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agree Helen Shiner
7 hrs
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