Dec 5, 2013 19:07
10 yrs ago
English term

monkey puzzle

English to French Art/Literary General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters Science-fiction roleplaying game
"Glory requires that its victims both perceive and comprehend the vector message, however, which is a monkey puzzle—a schematic for an
incredibly advanced exotech nanohive."

My first hunch was "casse-tête", "énigme" or something like that, but I'm really not sure.

Thanks !

Discussion

Daryo Dec 5, 2013:
this "monkey puzzle tree" may help understand how this "monkey puzzle" expression landed in this ST but it's probably safer to use something more widely understood like "un vrai casse-tête"
David Creuze (asker) Dec 5, 2013:
"Glory" here, is a kind of smart virus which infects people that have the necessary technological background so they can replicate it again and again.

Proposed translations

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une espèce de ou comme le /désespoir des singes

je pense

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Note added at 38 mins (2013-12-05 19:45:20 GMT)
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pour se coller au littéral , sinon "casse-tête" me semble très bien ou "un pb infernal"
Note from asker:
Mmmh... il doit y avoir un moyen de donner la même idée d'attirance (parce que plein de branches) / repoussoir (parce que trop épineux).
Pour l'instant je pense partir vers "casse-tête infernal", mais je vais attendre encore un peu.
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Ce sera "casse-tête maudit ou infernal", merci à tous."
3 hrs

rébus de singe

http://www.scribd.com/doc/163405447/Glory

I think the answer is in the sentence having read the above link.

monkey puzzle—a schematic for an incredibly advanced exotech nanohive

Schematic is a symbolic way of simplifying something complicated.

as not to repeat:
Rebus is a puzzle which uses a combination of diagrams and letters to form a word.
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14 hrs

nœud gordien

... message [...] qui est un véritable nœud gordien : le schéma...
Je pense que le point principal ici est que graphiquement, cette représentation de nanohive ressemblerait à une de ces dessins tout emmêlés qu'on griffonne quand on est au téléphone.
Nœud gordien évoque, à mon avis, l'image de nombreuses lignes courbes emmêlées et impossible à bien discerner les unes des autres.

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Note added at 21 hrs (2013-12-06 17:03:38 GMT)
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@Asker
Pour ma part, ça ne m'évoque qu'une situation embrouillée. Mais en effet, si vous avez l'impression que cela suggère aux joueurs la "solution d'Alexandre", ce n'est pas l'idéal.
Dans ce cas "inextricable casse-tête" est peut-être préférable.
Note from asker:
Le problème étant qu'il faut de la subtilité et non de la force brutale (comme pour un nœud gordien) pour résoudre le "problème", et donc être contaminé par ce "virus". Merci !
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Reference comments

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Reference:

monkey puzzle tree

Monkey Puzzle Araucaria araucana

The monkey puzzle tree, originally from South America, is so-called after the owner of a specimen in 19th century Britain suggested that its unusual branches would puzzle even a monkey to climb.

[http://apps.kew.org/trees/?page_id=136]

any possible link?

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Note added at 4 hrs (2013-12-05 23:19:08 GMT)
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one possible link: this "schematic" might have a complicated schematic "tree structure" difficult to follow or to grasp (a tree structure as in "a binary tree" or "un arbre généalogique")
Note from asker:
There are absolutely no trees in the context of the game (as it takes place on a spaceship) si it would not work, no. I think it literally refers to a metaphorical something that would "puzzle a monkey". I wonder if it's slang really... But thanks anyway !
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree kashew
22 mins
Thanks!
agree Sheila Wilson
12 hrs
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