Apr 28, 2017 09:45
7 yrs ago
English term

non-existence

English to French Art/Literary History
Even these powerful men were manipulated by the needs of their wives and children. They didn't realize that by taking films from me they betrayed their communist ethics to non-existence.


CONTEXT: This is taken from a documentary about Romania during Ceausescu's dictatorship. The speaker here is Mr. Zamfir, a businessman who smuggled VHS tapes into the country at a time when the only thing that was on TV was political propaganda. One night, the Party's secret police barged in M. Zamfir's house to take the tapes away from him. Zamfir subsequently tries to bribe high officials by giving them free VHS tapes. I'm having trouble translating the "non-existence" part here, can anybody help? Many thanks in advance!

Discussion

HERBET Abel Apr 28, 2017:
En voulant avoir des films il est "existentialiste" donc différent de sa ligne communiste et en les volant il s'est mis en position de risque de ne plus exister pour cette société car il n'avait pas l'esprit de partager .
En se fondant dans le communisme (je ne parle pas d'activisme communiste) on devient tous un peu anonyme, on n'existe plus beaucoup en tant que personne individuelle, c'est une sorte de non-existence

Proposed translations

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46 mins
English term (edited): they betrayed [their communist ethics] to non-existence.
Selected

[ils ont trahi leur éthique communiste] au point de la réduire à néant

de la faire disparaître entièrement

de la faire partir en fumée

de l'envoyer au diable

d'en faire une moquerie complète

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Note added at 52 mins (2017-04-28 10:37:07 GMT)
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IOW these "defenders" of the communist ethics trampled to such extent on principles they were supposed to be enforcing that these principles ceased to exists for them
Peer comment(s):

agree Fanette Pocentek-Leroy
8 mins
Merci!
agree Chakib Roula
21 mins
Merci!
agree GILLES MEUNIER : oui
40 mins
Merci!
agree Maïté Mendiondo-George
1 hr
Merci!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks a lot Daryo"
+2
37 mins

l'absence de

leur comportement trahissait chez eux l'absence d'éthique communiste

the formulation of the source is debatable : taking the tapes betrayed the non-existence of their communist ethics.

you cannot "betray to non-existence"
Peer comment(s):

agree Hélène OShea : oui c'est probablement ça.
7 mins
merci!
agree Kevin Thevenet
13 mins
merci!
neutral Maïté Mendiondo-George : je penserais plutôt que la cupidité avait anéanti -comme ce fut souvent les cas à ette époque l'éthique communiste de ces individus . Le désir était au dessus de tout Pensons à lanomenclatura -
5 hrs
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+2
1 hr

ils trahissaient leur éthique communiste jusqu'à l'anéantir

dans le même sens que Daryo
Peer comment(s):

agree Victoria Britten
1 hr
agree Yvonne Gallagher
1 day 1 hr
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