Jan 31, 2023 11:38
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Spanish term

individualización catastral

Spanish to English Law/Patents Real Estate Contrato de reserva
Hi all,

I'm looking for the English equivalent of the term "individualización catastral". Here is the context:

"El solar se encuentra pendiente de individualización catastral siendo las referencias catastrales del solar de origen"

Many thanks

Source: real estate reservation contract

Spanish (Spain) to English (UK)

Discussion

AllegroTrans Feb 2, 2023:
"meaningless to an English conveyancer" What matter? Many jurisdictions have a cadastral register and as Jennifer says, many Spanish speakers don't even know what it is. Cadaster/cadastral register is the correct term and who says we have to pander to English conveyancers? All they have to do is look up the term. And whilst "Index Map" is a viable explanation (for England and Wales only) it is not a translation.
Lisa Rosengard Jan 31, 2023:
A dictionary definition confirms that a cadastre is a public register showing details of ownership of real property in a district, including boundaries and tax assessments. The source text states that 'The plot of land or the allotment awaits a process of isolation or individualization from the Registry, depending on the references contained in the Registry on the original plot of land or allotment.' I guess that the disengagement or the individualization of the plot of land or allotment occurs with the purchase of land from the local authority.
Manuel Aburto Jan 31, 2023:
Solo a modo de comentario, será "desmembración" un sinónimo de "individualización".
Desmembración > "partitioning"

Sin mayor contexto, es lo que se me ocurre.

Saludos

Proposed translations

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cadastral identification

Cadastral Identification of Real Estate Property - IDEAS/RePEchttps://ideas.repec.org › ddj › fseeai
by CM ONICA · 2019 · Cited by 1 — Cadastral Identification of Real Estate Property. Author & abstract; Download; 2 References; Most related; Related works & more; Corrections ...

Cadastral Registerhttps://eng.gst.dk › danish-cadastre-office › cadastral-re...
The register includes cadastral identification numbers, property size, roads and rivers, in addition to case references for all past updates to individual ..
Peer comment(s):

agree philgoddard : I think "land registry" is better, because not many people will know what cadastral means.
1 hr
True. Thanks.
agree Jennifer Levey : 'cadastral' is the more-correct term - and there's no need to make the translation easier for 'many people' to understand than the ST - many ES-speakers haven't a clue what cadastral means!
7 hrs
Also true. Thanks!
agree Zorra Renard : Agree with JL and PG;
1 day 5 hrs
Thank you!
disagree Adrian MM. : Meaningless to an English-speaking conveyancer - and I practised conveyancing 40 years, including the UK and Spain.
2 days 3 hrs
agree claudia bagnardi : But it is the correct term: cadastral identification.
2 days 3 hrs
Thank you!
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designation in the cadastral register

Many countries have two registers for land - the cadaster which essentially records the survey/mapping record and land register which records the owner and any mortgages or other legal charges.
It would be confusing and in y view unacceptable to change this to land register/registry simply because people in En-spkg countries won't understand

What is cadastral registration?
Cadastral maps are essentially descriptions of the parcels of land (survey plots or holdings) with reference to which rights in land are defined and the holders of these rights identified.

Registers of rights - Cadastral surveys and records of rights in land

What is the difference between Land Registry and cadastre?
The Land Registries are the offices where information relating to real estate is registered and becomes public. The Cadastre is a public S.A. with a main role to conduct tha land surveys, provide cadastral data as well as legal information relating to real estate.

Relationship between LR and Cadastral - ELRA
Peer comment(s):

neutral philgoddard : Even if you disagree with my comment above, how is this different to patinba's answer?
1 hr
By avoiding the adjective "cadastral" which I regard as a little obscure for En-spkrs, whereas the addition of "register" will at least point the way to what this actually is - register recording land survey data (and NOT the Land Registry, which in separ
agree Jennifer Levey : There's now't wrong with using the most-accurate terms.
3 hrs
thanks
disagree Adrian MM. : Meaningless to an English-speaking conveyancer - and I practised conveyancing 40 years, including the UK and Spain. PS your Scots land and conveyancing law weblink is, paradoxically, germane North of the Border only.
1 day 23 hrs
Pls see my DB comment
agree Zorra Renard
3 days 19 hrs
thanks
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1 day 2 hrs

individual land survey (UK: index map) identification

Despite the insistence on using the Roman civil law term of 'cadastral', the 'cadastral property systems' are largely unknown in English Common Law countries, apart perhaps from the French-influenced US Fed. State of Louisiana.

A UK and Irish index map search - for the umpteenth time - is based on the Ordnance Survey map.

PS it's not the same as the Land Registry, except in Italy where the 'Cadastral' and Land Registry have been amalgamated and fused,
Peer comment(s):

neutral AllegroTrans : I see no reason whatever to depart from cadaster/cadastral. The term is used in Scotland. We don't need to spoon feed; https://kb.ros.gov.uk/land-and-property-registration/mapping...
3 hrs
Laughably, your web ref. is to Roman Scots law you are always keen on decrying.
neutral Zorra Renard : Agree with Allegro, and welcome back after your week on the naughty step, Adrian!// Where did you travel to, North Korea?!
4 hrs
I had been travelling and, unlike you, I am a qualified conveyancer, having clocked up SPA law + conveyancing practice at E&W Solicitors' Finals & practical conveyancing at Bar Finals level// None of your business, 'Zorra' aka Oliver T. alias Andrew B.
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