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English answer:

these two societies that were so close, yet so different.

Added to glossary by Kim Metzger
May 17, 2004 18:16
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English term

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That was the first contact of these two - so close, yet so different - societies in Europe - long before the European Union.

That was the first contact in Europe, long before the European Union, of these two - so close, yet so different - societies

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Non-ProZ.com May 17, 2004:
by contact I mean the meeting together rather than a treaty.

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That was the first contact in Europe (long before the European Union) between these two societies that were so close, yet so different.

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agree Hacene
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agree fgb : I like the way it sounds
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That was the first contact of these two societies in Europe- so close, yet so different- long before the European Union.

Is how I would put it without departing too far from your original, but I would probably put the parethesis in brackets rather than between hyphens.

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agree Vicky Papaprodromou
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Thank you, Vicky.
agree Eva Olsson
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suggestion

For a better flow:

"Long before the existence of the European Union, these two societies - both European, yet so different - had come into contact for the first time."


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agree nlingua : I'll go with this, it really does sound good.
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Thank you :-)
agree Alfa Trans (X)
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Thanks Marju :-)
agree Edward LIU : A really nice paraphrase
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Thank you Xianjun :-)
agree Gareth McMillan : Reads well.
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Thanks Gareth :-)
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How about this... (and I have a question too!)

That was the first contact in Europe (long before the European Union) of these two societies; so close, yet so different.

By the way - I'm going out on a limb here, but I have to ask:

Are you by chance referring to some sort of 'treaty' and not just 'contact'? Because this sentence - and the variants proffered by my esteemed colleagues - sounds a bit weird.

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Note added at 49 mins (2004-05-17 19:06:01 GMT)
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Uh.. before y\'all jump at me about \'sounding weird\', let me clarify. My intent is not to criticise you, but to understand the context of the post.

And in case you were wondering: Yes I have waa...ay too much time on my hands right now.
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agree Craft.Content
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that was the first contact between these two societies in Europe...

'That was the first contact between these two societies in Europe which are so close and yet so different - long before the European Union.'
I assume that by 'contact of', what is really meant is 'contact between', (although 'contact' is possibly rather a vague term here), and that both the societies in question are 'in Europe'. If this is so, I think that this is the best way of expressing it clearly.
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neutral Julie Roy : You are changing the original meaning by assuming that their first contact was indeed in Europe. We don't know that since it is not explicit in the quote.
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