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French term
France
Passionnée du mot juste.
Native in: French 
, English
Works in: French to English, English to French, English, and 1 more.
Détermination
French to English
Science
Biology (-tech,-chem,micro-)
Context: Water for injection, analysis report.
There are five columns:
- Détermination
- Normes
- Résultat
- Feuille de Travail
- Date
In the column "Détermination" are the headings of the water properties being tested:
- Appearance
- Clarity
- Colour
- TOC
- Nitrates
etc...
All glossary entries say the equivalent of "détermination" is "determination", but is the word "Property" not more appropriate?
There are five columns:
- Détermination
- Normes
- Résultat
- Feuille de Travail
- Date
In the column "Détermination" are the headings of the water properties being tested:
- Appearance
- Clarity
- Colour
- TOC
- Nitrates
etc...
All glossary entries say the equivalent of "détermination" is "determination", but is the word "Property" not more appropriate?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 | property/parameter/variable |
philgoddard
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| 5 +2 | Tests performed OR Parameters being tested/analysed |
abe(L)solano
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| 4 | characteristics |
Bourth
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Proposed translations
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philgoddard
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property/parameter/variable
'Determination' is not wrong, but I think these are better because they describe more accurately what the column contains.
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Comment: "thank you"
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abe(L)solano
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Works in: English to Spanish, French to Spanish
Tests performed OR Parameters being tested/analysed
Having worked in labs for 20 years this is a proper header and the usual jargon.
All characteristics/parameters (or analytes) being tested/analyzed are listed as you pointed out.
Some are pretty straightforward (and simple) as appearance and colour, but for "Nitrates" (and other chemicals) this is a proper/full analysis i.e. concentration is being determined (or its presence is ruled out). And at some point you must have pyrogen testing/detection as is usual in WFI (nitrates/metals and pyrogens/microorganisms are not "properties" or "variables").
See:
https://www.a3p.org/en/continuous-measurement-in-water-for-p...
https://www.epj-conferences.org/articles/epjconf/pdf/2013/11...
https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/FR/en/applications/microbiologi...
"Détermination" is a synonym of "Concentration assay" or "Microbiological tests", as here:
http://www.laboratoireldm.com/eaux-environnement/forage-ou-p...
Déterminations physico-chimiques : saveur, odeur, couleur, température, pH, conductivité, turbidité, ammonium, nitrates, nitrites, chlorures, sulfates, carbone organique total COT, dureté (TH), chlore libre, chlore total.
Déterminations bactériologiques : dénombrement de la flore totale à 36°C et à 22°C, dénombrement des coliformes totaux et d’Escherichia coli, dénombrement des entérocoques intestinaux, dénombrement des spores de micro-organismes anaérobies sulfito-réducteurs.
All characteristics/parameters (or analytes) being tested/analyzed are listed as you pointed out.
Some are pretty straightforward (and simple) as appearance and colour, but for "Nitrates" (and other chemicals) this is a proper/full analysis i.e. concentration is being determined (or its presence is ruled out). And at some point you must have pyrogen testing/detection as is usual in WFI (nitrates/metals and pyrogens/microorganisms are not "properties" or "variables").
See:
https://www.a3p.org/en/continuous-measurement-in-water-for-p...
https://www.epj-conferences.org/articles/epjconf/pdf/2013/11...
https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/FR/en/applications/microbiologi...
"Détermination" is a synonym of "Concentration assay" or "Microbiological tests", as here:
http://www.laboratoireldm.com/eaux-environnement/forage-ou-p...
Déterminations physico-chimiques : saveur, odeur, couleur, température, pH, conductivité, turbidité, ammonium, nitrates, nitrites, chlorures, sulfates, carbone organique total COT, dureté (TH), chlore libre, chlore total.
Déterminations bactériologiques : dénombrement de la flore totale à 36°C et à 22°C, dénombrement des coliformes totaux et d’Escherichia coli, dénombrement des entérocoques intestinaux, dénombrement des spores de micro-organismes anaérobies sulfito-réducteurs.
Peer comment(s):
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liz askew
: "parameters" would suffice, https://www.google.com/search?q=water for injection Appearan...
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merci Liz!
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Sue Davis
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Thanks, Sue
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philgoddard
: 'Being performed' is redundant. It's also the wrong tense - they're not 'being' performed. As Liz says, 'parameters' would suffice, and I've said that.//Any of these words, including Bourth's, is fine. Your arrogance is bothersome.
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But you also proposed "property" & "variable" and Bourth "characteristics" and chemical/biological tests/assays (of WFI) aren't that. Sorry if my expertise is bothersome!! cheers!!
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characteristics
"Suspended matter consists of very small particles, which cannot be removed by means of settling. They can be identified through description of visible characteristics of water, including turbidity and clarity, taste, colour and odour of the water:"
https://www.lenntech.com/water-quality-assessment-faq.htm
"there are eight key important characteristics of a water quality measurement: temperature, clarity, conductivity, pH, alkalinity, chlorine, hardness, and dissolved oxygen"
https://www.waterrangers.ca/what-is-water-quality/#:~:text=H...
As described here - https://echo2.epfl.ch/VICAIRE/mod_2/chapt_2/main.htm - there are the above physical characteristics and then there are chemical characteristics (including TOC and nitrates (under 'major anions')), microbiological characteristics, and biological characteristics.
https://www.lenntech.com/water-quality-assessment-faq.htm
"there are eight key important characteristics of a water quality measurement: temperature, clarity, conductivity, pH, alkalinity, chlorine, hardness, and dissolved oxygen"
https://www.waterrangers.ca/what-is-water-quality/#:~:text=H...
As described here - https://echo2.epfl.ch/VICAIRE/mod_2/chapt_2/main.htm - there are the above physical characteristics and then there are chemical characteristics (including TOC and nitrates (under 'major anions')), microbiological characteristics, and biological characteristics.
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