Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

Notario tercero

English translation:

Notary Three

Added to glossary by Henry Hinds
Feb 8, 2012 17:40
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Spanish term

Notario tercero

Spanish to English Law/Patents Law (general) Colombian divorce
At the top of a letter, Notario Tercero del Circuito de **** on divorce papers
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Feb 17, 2012 17:54: Henry Hinds Created KOG entry

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AllegroTrans Feb 8, 2012:
Why a notary (code law countries) is not the same as a notary public (countries such as UK and USA)
A notary public (or notary or public notary) in the common law world is a public officer constituted by law to serve the public in non-contentious matters usually concerned with estates, deeds, powers-of-attorney, and foreign and international business. A notary's main functions are to administer oaths and affirmations, take affidavits and statutory declarations, witness and authenticate the execution of certain classes of documents, take acknowledgments of deeds and other conveyances, protest notes and bills of exchange, provide notice of foreign drafts, prepare marine or ship's protests in cases of damage, provide exemplifications and notarial copies, and perform certain other official acts depending on the jurisdiction.

Most Roman law-based systems have the civil law notary, a legal professional working in civil law performing similar functions, but often rather more extensive.
Claudia Luque Bedregal Feb 8, 2012:
Hola John. En algunos países las notarías están divididas en circuitos y se les asignan números. He encontrado un link aquí en el que han hecho una pregunta similar a la tuya. Tal vez te sirve. Saludos.
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish_to_english/law_patents/234...

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Notary Three

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Third Notary Public

...of the Circuit of"
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14 Jan 2010 – ... THAT WAS GRANTED BEFORE THE THIRD NOTARY PUBLIC, OF ...... Bangladesh, Brazil, Cameroon, Canada, Chile, China, Colombia, ...
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Peace of the Evangelical Council of Colombia, CEDECOL. With the Support of: ...... at the Third Notary Public in Montería, but she did not comply. She also did ...
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Jan Juriaensen Becker, the third notary public whose papers are printed in this volume, ...... Nutten hook, in Columbia county, N. Y. NOTARIAL PAPERS I AND 2, ...
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21413 - 1989 - 010 - 2571 -2578 gacetas.procuraduria-admon.gob.pa/21413_1989.pdf
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the Third Notary Public of the Circuit of Panama, registered in the Micro- film ( Mercantil) Section of the Public. Registry, at Microjacket 167938,. Reel 27146 ...
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THE UNDERSIGNED THIRD NOTARY PUBLIC OF THE CIRCUIT OF CALI. CERTIFIES. That in folio 405, book of October 1964, appears a birth certificate that ...
Peer comment(s):

agree philgoddard : "Notary no. 3" might be better. Each firm in the district has a number. We've had this before in Spanish to Italian: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish_to_italian/law_general/181...
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aha! Many thanks! ;-)
agree Alistair Ian Spearing Ortiz : Agree with Phil.
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many thanks! ;-)
agree Richard Hill : Agree with No. 3 too
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many thanks! ;-)
agree AllegroTrans : Notary No. 3 and omit "public" as that is term specific to common-law countries// it doesn't matter a jot if target is a common law country - a notary in a code law country and a notary public are totally different professions
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many thanks, but "public" needs to be included as I imagine the target is a common-law country//I disagree, for the purposes of localization "public" needs to be included.
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Civil Law Notary Public

This is just another option.
I recommend that you review and compare the responsibilities and qualifications for a Notary Public in the country of the source document and also in the country of the target document. Sometimes the correct term would be Civil Law Notary.
The term Notary Public is not an exact equivalent from one country to another. For example, in Venezuela a Notary Public has to be a lawyer and meet many more requirements and responsibilities in comparison with a Notary Public for the US (no need to be a lawyer and a more limited responsibility). They have the same name but are not equal in meaning and functions. I don't know about the UK. I found these 2 links,
and I’m not sure which of the 2 would be adequate for your document:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notary_public
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_law_notary
I suggest you review both links and decide which best suits the situation concerning the source and target document.

“As a general rule, countries who formerly were colonies or viceroyalties of Spain, France or Portugal, have retained a civil law tradition and, accordingly, a civil-law notarial profession. This is the case with most Latin American and French-speaking African countries, but not so of Asian countries.”
“Save for Louisiana, Puerto Rico, and Quebec, a civil-law notary should not be confused with a notary public in the United States and Canada, who has none of the legal powers notaries enjoy at civil law. Rather, notaries public only have the power to administer oaths, take affidavits, declarations or depositions from witnesses, acknowledge and attest signatures, and certify copies, usually in conjunction with some legal process. In Louisiana, Puerto Rico, and Quebec, private law is traditionally based on the French and Spanish civil codes, giving notaries greater legal powers, including the right to prepare wills, conveyances and generally all contracts and instruments in writing. For this reason, immigrants from civil-law countries where civil-law notaries exist, particularly those from Latin America, are often confused by the office of notary public and have been defrauded by dishonest notaries misrepresenting themselves as having legal powers. Thus, in some states there have been ongoing efforts to prohibit notaries public from listing themselves as notario público. Such a law has existed for more than fifteen years in California. Similar laws now exist in Texas, Illinois, Tennessee, Georgia, and Florida.”


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Civil Law Notary Public of the 3rd Circuit.
Peer comment(s):

neutral AllegroTrans : OK but doesn't deal with "tercero" which I imagine was the asker's real query
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