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M. El Kadimi 
Morocco
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TOPIC STARTER | More than just HTML | Apr 9, 2023 |
Zea_Mays wrote:
It is also useful for writing html code.
[Bearbeitet am 2023-04-05 14:20 GMT]
Not just HTML. I have tried it into Javascript, PHP, SQL, Python and many others, and the results were amazing.
| | | | Stepan Konev
Russian Federation
Local time: 23:02
English to Russian
M. El Kadimi wrote:
Not just HTML. I have tried it into Javascript, PHP, SQL, Python and many others, and the results were amazing. Then why on earth it does not work for Autohotkey scripts, even for very simple codes like "Press Ctrl+C, press Ctrl+V"?
| | | | Michael Beijer
United Kingdom
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| GPT-4 is very good at creating functional Python scripts | Apr 9, 2023 |
Stepan Konev wrote: M. El Kadimi wrote:
Not just HTML. I have tried it into Javascript, PHP, SQL, Python and many others, and the results were amazing. Then why on earth it does not work for Autohotkey scripts, even for very simple codes like "Press Ctrl+C, press Ctrl+V"?
I haven't tried to use it for AHK scripts myself, but one reason why it might not work is that the system doesn't have knowledge of anything after a certain date, which means it won't know anything or much about the new version of AHK, v2.
However, I have been having a lot of fun lately with Python scripts, which it is very much able to create. If you make sure to ask the right questions, that is with a sufficient level of detail, it will spit out a fully functional Python script to do pretty much anything you want. If the script is produces has an error you can also ask it to fix the error, which it will also do. It even produces nicely commented code.
For example, the other day I wanted to quickly add or remove a single space from the beginning and end of each line of a text file. It created a nice little Python script for me (with a GUI) in 5 seconds that does exactly that.
It made a little GUI script for me to convert a TSV file into a .dsl file for use in GoldenDict.
I've even created several rudimentary dictionary apps, which I am currently refining and playing around with.
I currently have a subscription and use the new version, 4.5.
| | | | Stepan Konev
Russian Federation
Local time: 23:02
English to Russian
Michael Beijer wrote:
one reason why it might not work is that the system doesn't have knowledge of anything after a certain date, which means it won't know anything or much about the new version of AHK, v2. Ok, that makes sense.
Btw, I didn't know that v.2 was released. I still use v.1. Thank you for updating me on this.
[Edited at 2023-04-10 07:14 GMT]
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Daryo
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| Yeah sure... | Apr 10, 2023 |
Yeah sure, just ban it - problem solved. All you need to do on a worldwide network that is by design impossible to "compartmentalize" if you want to keep it usable ...
You could as well ban gravity.
Try to stop all sort of cheaters from using a free tool - good luck with that. Reminds me of the uphill battle to stop IT novices from bringing floppy disks and installing "funny games" on their job computers. At the time when malware was written by vandals bent on wrecking your computer, not stealing information.
Sure, a ban is going to put the djinn back in the bottle.
| | | | | Some thoughts | Apr 10, 2023 |
From my view, I believe translators are not an endangered species, but technology is changing how they work. Computers can do some translation tasks now, but humans are still much needed for more complex work. Translators who can adapt to these changes, embrace new technologies, and uphold professional standards will continue to be in demand.
| | | | | Yes, we are an endangered species. | Apr 11, 2023 |
And for those saying that ChatGPT and other AI are not good enough or point to its errors, let’s remember that it is still early days and an increasing number of resources are being put into this tech all the time.
| | | | Baran Keki
Türkiye
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If this ChatGPT is so fucking fantastic, then let them put it to a real test and replace the incompetent idiots in the VAR room, and let's see if the teams are robbed of valuable points at this stage?
VAR was meant to eliminate 'human error', but it seems that with the technology at the hands of humans things still get f*cked up (see the Brighton game last weekend). So humans need to be replaced completely by machines to get things right.. Way to go ChatGPT and its champions..
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Lieven Malaise
Belgium
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Baran Keki wrote:
If this ChatGPT is so fucking fantastic, then let them put it to a real test and replace the incompetent idiots in the VAR room, and let's see if the teams are robbed of valuable points at this stage?
VAR was meant to eliminate 'human error', but it seems that with the technology at the hands of humans things still get f*cked up (see the Brighton game last weekend). So humans need to be replaced completely by machines to get things right.. Way to go ChatGPT and its champions..
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It can be hard to look beyond the hype.
GPT is not an MT, it's an LLM. This means that it's build for general purpose but not specifically for MT only. This is why it's still outperformed by other MT engines in specific language pairs or workflows.
Like any other MT it will suffer from the style derived from its training data, with the ups and downs this entails.
I found this factual article very interesting to see how GPT performs on the bench (GPT 4 this time) compared... See more It can be hard to look beyond the hype.
GPT is not an MT, it's an LLM. This means that it's build for general purpose but not specifically for MT only. This is why it's still outperformed by other MT engines in specific language pairs or workflows.
Like any other MT it will suffer from the style derived from its training data, with the ups and downs this entails.
I found this factual article very interesting to see how GPT performs on the bench (GPT 4 this time) compared to other MT engines. https://blog.inten.to/translating-with-gpt-4-the-latest-the-greatest-561025cb761c ▲ Collapse
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English to Indonesian
Philippe Locquet wrote:
GPT is not an MT, it's an LLM. This means that it's build for general purpose but not specifically for MT only.
Finally, someone speaks the truth! If it weren’t for people like Philippe, this website would’ve turned into nothing more than a propaganda factory. Then again, maybe it already has.
Thank you for the link.
| | | | | Chat GPT stories | Apr 28, 2023 |
By the way, I worked on two videos a while ago.
This one on my channel discusses how LLM such as chat GPT could influence work generally (not only translation):
https://youtu.be/t5DyubjHuxc
This video on Robert’s channel touches on Chat GPT for translation:
https://youtu.be/6_q7pSx8u7g... See more By the way, I worked on two videos a while ago.
This one on my channel discusses how LLM such as chat GPT could influence work generally (not only translation):
https://youtu.be/t5DyubjHuxc
This video on Robert’s channel touches on Chat GPT for translation:
https://youtu.be/6_q7pSx8u7g
Some of you may find it interesting. Eggs and rotten tomatoes are welcome too 😉
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Lieven Malaise
Belgium
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| I received... | Apr 28, 2023 |
...an email earlier today from a client, stating the strenghts and weaknesses of ChatGPT and ending with the explicit warning to not use ChatGPT for translation under any circumstances (mainly for data security and privacy reasons).
| | | | David GAY
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Some translators claim AI is just a tool for translators. But do your math. Such a tool that enables to translate 3 times faster is going to deprive 66 percent of the translators of their job. It s just math. Whatever it s called, Deepl, Chatgpt or any other the threat is here.
[Edited at 2023-04-28 13:35 GMT]
| | | | Stepan Konev
Russian Federation
Local time: 23:02
English to Russian
Sara Massons wrote:
That said, I'm glad to read that enough people who publish content on the web are convinced of the quality of our work to take the AI to this conclusion. I agree with your comment, but actually everybody, when falling off the cliff, cries "No". The onset of AI is seen by most people as sort of such falling off the cliff. Hence the "No" conclusion by AI. Not because they are convinced but rather because they are frightened.
David GAY wrote:
Such a tool that enables to translate 3 times faster is going to deprive 66 percent of the translators of their job. It s just math. Inventing an engine resulted in 100% cut among horse carriage drivers. Was it evitable? What is meant to happen will happen, and we must be prepared for that.
[Edited at 2023-04-28 17:07 GMT]
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