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Serbian translation: normalizovana (korigovana) zarada

09:14 Oct 31, 2016
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English term or phrase: Underlying earnings
Treba mi prevod termina underlying earnings, a definicije na engleskom mi baš i ne pomažu. Ako je npr. "earnings per share" - zarada po akciji, šta je onda na srpskom "underlying earnings per share" i kako se razlikuje od ovog prethodnog?
Aleksandar Protić
Serbia
Local time: 13:21
Serbian translation:normalizovana (korigovana) zarada
Explanation:
"Underlying" se dobija nestandardnom metodom obračuna i, shodno tome, mora se naglasiti šta tačno podrazumeva jer nema precizne definicije, niti ustaljenog termina.
Uglavnom je to zarada po akciji pre vanrednih stavki i amortizacije goodwill-a.

http://lexicon.ft.com/Term?term=statutory profit or loss
Companies often contrast it with "underlying profit" (or loss) which would normally exclude "exceptional" items, leaving, as some might put it, profit without the bad stuff.
http://help.stockopedia.com/technical-guide/fundamentals/faq...
One off items, non-recurring or exceptional items are subtracted from the reported eps figure to give a more accurate depiction of the firm's underlying profitability.

http://www.authorstream.com/Presentation/aSGuest125979-13267...
normalizovani dobitak (onaj deo dobitka koji je direktan rezultat ponavljajućih aktivnosti, na primer prodaja, a ne vanrednih stavki)
sl. primer: normalizovani ebit inbev http://www.belex.rs/data/2009/06/00020588.pdf

https://www.google.rs/search?q=korigovana zarada po akciji&i...
korigovana zarada po akciji po nestandardnom (ne-GAAP) metodu
https://www.ventureline.com/accounting-glossary/A/adjusted-e...
ADJUSTED EARNINGS PER SHARE is a non-GAAP financial measure of earnings per share. Dependent upon the entity, it may or may not include what would normally be included in a GAAP sanctioned earnings per share calculation.

http://news.fool.co.uk//school/2005/sch050826.htm
Defined in FRS 14, the formula for calculating EPS is 'Profit/loss attributable to ordinary shareholders' divided by 'Weighted average number of ordinary shares in issue'.
The accounting standard FRS 3 deems the 'profit/loss attributable to ordinary shareholders' (in a word, 'earnings') as the profit/loss produced after all operational expenses, goodwill amortisation, interest, tax, exceptional items, minority interests and preference dividends, and is used to calculate what's called basic or statutory EPS.
FRS 14 also allows companies to calculate their own EPS figure, the numerator of which can exclude certain charges (usually goodwill amortisation and one-off costs) to present a clearer picture of progress. This second EPS figure has many names, including headline, adjusted, underlying and normalised.

Primeri:
- Earnings per share – basic 1.6p mil
Earnings per share – underlying 24.6p http://ebooks.narotama.ac.id/files/Financial Accounting and ...
- Underlying earnings correspond to adjusted earnings excluding net capital gains or losses attributable to shareholders. http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/AXA_(AXA)/Underlying_Earnings
- Non-GAAP measures:
Underlying profit before taxation (£m) 8 20.4 15.8
Underlying earnings (£m) 8 17.3 13.0
Basic underlying earnings per share 9 28.5p 21.9p
Diluted underlying earnings per share 9 27.8p 21.1p
http://www.norcros.com/investor-centre/key-financial-informa...
- underlying and headline used to mean before exceptional items of £10.0m (2002/2003 : £19.9m) and amortisation of negative goodwill/goodwill amortisation £... before exceptional charges of £
33.7m (2002/2003 £49.2m) and goodwill amortisation of £
2.5m (2002/2003 £3.6m) http://www.delarue.com/~/media/Files/D/DeLaRue-V2/reports-an...

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"This second EPS figure has many names, including headline, adjusted, underlying and normalised."
Pogledajte:
http://www.companydirectors.com.au/~/media/resources/directo...
1. Recognise that the different users of financial reports have different information needs.
2. Adopt the term “underlying profit” in preference to “normalised profit”, “result excluding exceptional items”, “underlying result” or other terminology used to express adjustments made to the statutory profit figure.
3. When reporting underlying profit, present a table showing how the statutory profit has been adjusted to arrive at the underlying profit.
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Vesna Maširević
Serbia
Local time: 13:21
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2normalizovana (korigovana) zarada
Vesna Maširević
3bruto zarada
Vuka Mijuskovic


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8 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
underlying earnings
bruto zarada


Explanation:
Underlying basic and diluted earnings per share
Excludes profit/loss on disposals, share-based payments adjustment and impairment and amortisation of goodwill and intangibles (excluding
software).

http://ir.savills.com/financial-information/key-financial-da...

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Na ovom linku
http://nextplc.annualreport2013.com/accounts/notes-to-the-co...
postoji link ka dodatku 6 na kome su stavke koje se izuzimaju iz obracuna. Onda bi basic earning per share (sa svim tim stavkama uracunatim) predstavljao neto zaradu.

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@Aleksandar Underlying se odredjuje kada se od basic izuzmu pension credit, pension charge, prior year VAT recovery... (kako pise u tom dodatku 6) Zato sam stavila bruto. A mozda je bolje naci neke druge izraze za neto i bruto.

Vuka Mijuskovic
Serbia
Local time: 13:21
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in Serbo-CroatSerbo-Croat
Notes to answerer
Asker: Prema MRS 33 (link ispod), Basic earnings per share jeste "Osnovna zarada po akciji", ali meni ne treba Basic nego Underlying, što je nešto drugo. U svim kontekstima sa kojima sam se ja do sada susretao, Neto je bilo "Net" and Bruto "Gross". http://mfin.gov.rs/UserFiles/File/MRS/Medunarodni%20racunovodstveni%20standard%2033%20-%20Zarada%20po%20akciji.pdf

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23 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
underlying earnings
normalizovana (korigovana) zarada


Explanation:
"Underlying" se dobija nestandardnom metodom obračuna i, shodno tome, mora se naglasiti šta tačno podrazumeva jer nema precizne definicije, niti ustaljenog termina.
Uglavnom je to zarada po akciji pre vanrednih stavki i amortizacije goodwill-a.

http://lexicon.ft.com/Term?term=statutory profit or loss
Companies often contrast it with "underlying profit" (or loss) which would normally exclude "exceptional" items, leaving, as some might put it, profit without the bad stuff.
http://help.stockopedia.com/technical-guide/fundamentals/faq...
One off items, non-recurring or exceptional items are subtracted from the reported eps figure to give a more accurate depiction of the firm's underlying profitability.

http://www.authorstream.com/Presentation/aSGuest125979-13267...
normalizovani dobitak (onaj deo dobitka koji je direktan rezultat ponavljajućih aktivnosti, na primer prodaja, a ne vanrednih stavki)
sl. primer: normalizovani ebit inbev http://www.belex.rs/data/2009/06/00020588.pdf

https://www.google.rs/search?q=korigovana zarada po akciji&i...
korigovana zarada po akciji po nestandardnom (ne-GAAP) metodu
https://www.ventureline.com/accounting-glossary/A/adjusted-e...
ADJUSTED EARNINGS PER SHARE is a non-GAAP financial measure of earnings per share. Dependent upon the entity, it may or may not include what would normally be included in a GAAP sanctioned earnings per share calculation.

http://news.fool.co.uk//school/2005/sch050826.htm
Defined in FRS 14, the formula for calculating EPS is 'Profit/loss attributable to ordinary shareholders' divided by 'Weighted average number of ordinary shares in issue'.
The accounting standard FRS 3 deems the 'profit/loss attributable to ordinary shareholders' (in a word, 'earnings') as the profit/loss produced after all operational expenses, goodwill amortisation, interest, tax, exceptional items, minority interests and preference dividends, and is used to calculate what's called basic or statutory EPS.
FRS 14 also allows companies to calculate their own EPS figure, the numerator of which can exclude certain charges (usually goodwill amortisation and one-off costs) to present a clearer picture of progress. This second EPS figure has many names, including headline, adjusted, underlying and normalised.

Primeri:
- Earnings per share – basic 1.6p mil
Earnings per share – underlying 24.6p http://ebooks.narotama.ac.id/files/Financial Accounting and ...
- Underlying earnings correspond to adjusted earnings excluding net capital gains or losses attributable to shareholders. http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/AXA_(AXA)/Underlying_Earnings
- Non-GAAP measures:
Underlying profit before taxation (£m) 8 20.4 15.8
Underlying earnings (£m) 8 17.3 13.0
Basic underlying earnings per share 9 28.5p 21.9p
Diluted underlying earnings per share 9 27.8p 21.1p
http://www.norcros.com/investor-centre/key-financial-informa...
- underlying and headline used to mean before exceptional items of £10.0m (2002/2003 : £19.9m) and amortisation of negative goodwill/goodwill amortisation £... before exceptional charges of £
33.7m (2002/2003 £49.2m) and goodwill amortisation of £
2.5m (2002/2003 £3.6m) http://www.delarue.com/~/media/Files/D/DeLaRue-V2/reports-an...

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Note added at 1 day53 mins (2016-11-01 10:08:17 GMT)
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"This second EPS figure has many names, including headline, adjusted, underlying and normalised."
Pogledajte:
http://www.companydirectors.com.au/~/media/resources/directo...
1. Recognise that the different users of financial reports have different information needs.
2. Adopt the term “underlying profit” in preference to “normalised profit”, “result excluding exceptional items”, “underlying result” or other terminology used to express adjustments made to the statutory profit figure.
3. When reporting underlying profit, present a table showing how the statutory profit has been adjusted to arrive at the underlying profit.

Vesna Maširević
Serbia
Local time: 13:21
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in Serbo-CroatSerbo-Croat
PRO pts in category: 84
Grading comment
Hvala!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Meni je prvo pala na pamet "korigovana zarada", jer po definiciji to i jeste zarada obračunata uz određene, proizvoljne korekcije, kao što rekosmo. Ali tu mi je smetalo to što takođe imamo i "Adjusted (korigovani) profit" i "underlying profit", što nije isto, bar koliko vidim po definicijama tih termina.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Vuka Mijuskovic: Najpreciznije, a najNEprihvatljivije bi bilo osnovica osnovne EPS. Ili bi basic trebalo drugacije da se prevede, sto zalazi u domen izmisljanja nove terminologije.
2 hrs
  -> Bojim se da smo pomalo već u domenu izmišljanja (u tom smislu, možda bi i primarna EPS poslužila) ali osnovna je dovoljno uvrežena da joj ne možemo ništa :)

agree  Mira Stepanovic
2 hrs
  -> Hvala!
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