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Spanish term or phrase:	al tercero de quien traiga causa
English translation:	to the third party for which there is cause
Entered by:	Michael Powers (PhD)

12:39 Jul 18, 2009

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Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s)

Spanish term or phrase: al tercero de quien traiga causa

"Si el Arrendatario resolviese unilateralmente este contrato antes el vencimiento del mismo o de sus prórrogas, o bien fuese resuelto por causa a él imputable, se verá obligado a abonar a XXX o al tercero de quien traiga causa, en concepto de daños y perjuicios, …."

I'm not sure how to translate "o al tercero de quien traiga causa” in this sentence.

Many thanks, H.

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to the third party from whom a law suit is filed / brought

Explanation:
A third party requesting compensation for damages

Mike :)

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Note added at 22 hrs (2009-07-19 11:37:03 GMT)
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Actually, more often than not, "causal" means grounds. On the other hand, given your description, it would not be a lawsuit. When dealing with contracts, similar in this case to the common law notion of "consideration", the term of art would be "cause". therefore it should be changed to something such as: "to a third party for which there is cause". The source is excellent.

Tom West. Spanish-English Dictionary of Law and Business.

"causa: 1. cause, lawsuit 2. cause [of a contract - similar to the common law notion of "consideration"]"

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Note added at 1 day11 mins (2009-07-19 12:51:41 GMT)
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I believe it sounds normal in legalize to state: "to the third party for which there is cause."

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Note added at 1 day8 hrs (2009-07-19 20:44:29 GMT) Post-grading
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I appreciate your dialog, H., but that forced to reevaluate and offer a different solution that was more appropriate for this particular case. Hence, it was a learning experience for me, too. Mike :)

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Michael Powers (PhD)
United States
Local time: 07:21

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Thanks a lot for your help, Michael, I really appreciate it.
Kind regards, H.
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to the third party from whom a law suit is filed / brought

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to the third party from whom a law suit is filed / brought

Michael Powers (PhD)
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Local time: 07:21
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Native speaker of: English
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Thanks a lot for your help, Michael, I really appreciate it.
Kind regards, H.

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Asker: Dear Michael, thanks for your answer. My dilemma though, is precisely whether "causa" here is used in the sense of "lawsuit" or simply as "grounds" or "entitlement" to compensation, since it is payable in the event of an early termination (for whatever reason) by the other party, in which case I don't see why they would necessarily have a lawsuit brought against them. I'm not sure though, and I've been having trouble finding any reliable information about exactly what this means. H.

Asker: Actually, I am pretty sure they mean the lessor or any assignees (of the lessor's rights), because what has to be paid in the event of an early termination are all the remaining monthly instalments (for the rental of machines) payable until the expiration of the lease agreement, and further on in the contract there is an entire clause about the possible assignment of the lease and of the lessor's rights to an assignee...

Asker: Thanks again, Michael. I also think it definitely means "cause" rather than "lawsuit". This is pretty frustrating because I now understand exactly what they mean, but it is very hard to translate this in a way that sounds like "proper English". Kind regards, H.

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