win-lose situation

Polish translation: sytuacja jednostronnie korzystna

17:36 Feb 29, 2024

English to Polish translations [PRO]
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English term or phrase: win-lose situation

Aftermath conflict - the situation where a particular problem may have been resolved but the potential for conflict still exists. In fact the potential may be even greater than before, if one person or group perceives itself as being involved in a win-loose situation.

Natalia Szewczyk KudoZ activity Questions: 30 (7 open) Answers: 0 United Kingdom
Local time: 03:32

Polish translation:sytuacja jednostronnie korzystna

Explanation:
https://el.us.edu.pl/ekonofizyka/index.php/Teoria_gier/podst...
"Tradycyjne podejście ograniczałoby się do przekątnej od prawego dolnego do lewego górnego wierzchołka - albo ja osiągam wszystko „ich” kosztem ("wygrany-przegrany"), albo „oni” moim ("przegrany-wygrany"), albo znajdujemy rozwiązanie pośrednie kompromisowe w okolicach środka. Istnieje jeszcze - spotykany, niestety, w rzeczywistości - rezultat "przegrany-przegrany" niekorzystny dla obu stron. Jest on najczęściej wynikiem nieprzejednanej, nieustępliwej postawy wszystkich zaangażowanych i może polegać albo na zerwaniu rozmów, albo realizacji porozumienia „za wszelką cenę”, choćby dla wszystkich niekorzystnego."

Pojęcie z teorii gier, często wykorzystywane przy opisie strategii negocjacyjnych i wyników negocjacji. Wiele artykułów nawet tego nie tłumaczy i zostawia po prostu strategię, technikę, rezultat "win-lose", ale myślę, że możemy lepiej.

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Bartosz Kurkiewicz
Poland
Local time: 04:32

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Summary of answers provided

3 +3

sytuacja jednostronnie korzystna

Bartosz Kurkiewicz

4 +1

[odpowiedź poniżej]

Andrzej Ziomek

W położeniu zwycięstwa i porażki / w wizji wygrać-przegrać

beatta

Zwycięzca i pokonany

Joanna Carroll

Summary of reference entries provided

Win-Lose Negotiation definition

geopiet

Discussion entries: 5

Andrzej Ziomek

Poland

@geopiet, kilka wpisów w poniższej dyskusji

16:04 Mar 1

Andrei Yefimov Identity Verified
Ukraine
Local time: 17:47
English to Russian
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fair play Dec 23, 2011

Sometimes you might need to translate the whole sentence to justify your answer, and it is just not possible to squeeze your translation into the space provided. Let's not forget we deal with language, not timber.

Besides, if, say, you enter a poor translation titled 'see below', I don't think it will help you to get points.

[Edited at 2011-12-23 13:53 GMT]

Robert Forstag Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 10:47
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Agree with Andrei Dec 23, 2011

There are simply instances in which the suggested answer needs to be contextualized in order to make sense.

David Wright Identity Verified
Austria
Local time: 16:47
German to English
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Obviously I have misunderstood something Dec 23, 2011

I thought the idea was to give assistance to and obtain it from other translators. I would feel that if "see below" or the like is regarded by the answerer as the best approach, then he / she should use it. I doubt that others agree with an answer just because it's in this format, but more likely because it happens to be the best answer. I have [...]

geopiet

i dyskusja na ten temat

00:10 Mar 1

https://www.proz.com/forum/kudoz/214742-"see_below"_answer_i...

geopiet

@ Andrzej, re: „odpowiedź poniżej”

00:09 Mar 1

1.4 Glossary form must be maintained.

Draft glossaries are generated automatically from KudoZ questions and answers. For this reason, expressions such as "see below", "in this context", etc., must not be entered in the boxes provided for terms, either when posting source terms or proposing translations. Question marks, quote marks, unnecessary capitalization and anything else that would not be found in a dictionary, should not be entered. Translations entered for glossary-building KudoZ must include the translated term, a definition and at least an example of use, all in the corresponding target language. - https://www.proz.com/siterules/kudoz_general/1.4#1.4

geopiet

18:35 Feb 29

Negocjacje dystrybucyjne, znane również jako negocjacje typu win-lose, dotyczą sytuacji, w której zysk jednej strony odbywa się kosztem strony przeciwnej - https://medium.com/@przywodztwoinegocjacje/typy-negocjacji-w...

geopiet

18:30 Feb 29

.... dobrowolny handel jest sytuacją typu win–win (wszyscy wygrywają – przyp. tłum.). - https://mises.pl/artykul/8-koncepcji-ktore-ucza-ekonomiczneg...

Answers

6 mins confidence:

Zwycięzca i pokonany

Explanation:
Według mnie najlepiej opisowo tzn.: …sytuacja, wkroję jedna strona jest zwycięzcą a druga pokonanym.

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Note added at 8 mins (2024-02-29 17:44:21 GMT)
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Sorry! Miało być: w której

Joanna Carroll
United Kingdom
Local time: 03:32
Native speaker of: Polish
PRO pts in category: 63

38 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

sytuacja jednostronnie korzystna

Bartosz Kurkiewicz
Poland
Local time: 04:32
Native speaker of:

Polish
PRO pts in category: 4

3 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

[odpowiedź poniżej]

Explanation:
[...] if one person or group perceives itself as being involved in a win-loose situation.

[...] jeśli jedna z uczestniczących w sporze osób lub grup postrzega siebie jednoznacznie jako stronę przegraną (sytuacja ,,win-lose").

Andrzej Ziomek
Poland
Local time: 04:32
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Polish
PRO pts in category: 8

5 days confidence:

In a win-lose situation W położeniu zwycięstwa i porażki / w wizji wygrać-przegrać

Explanation:
Win-lose situation - wygrana i przegrana kategoria.

beatta
Local time: 22:32
Native speaker of:

Polish

Reference comments

48 mins

Reference: Win-Lose Negotiation definition

Reference information:
Win-Lose refers to a distributive negotiation where one negotiator's gain the other negotiator's loss. Both negotiators are typically competing to take away or claim the most value from their negotiation. Also called the 'fixed-pie' scenario, in that there is only a limited amount to be distributed. - https://www.negotiations.com/definition/win-lose/#:~:text=Wi...

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A win-lose can be viewed as a “fixed-pie” situation where only a limited amount is distributed among the negotiating parties. In game theory, a win-lose is also known as a zero-sum game - https://openaccesspub.org/human-psychology/article/1795#:~:t...

geopiet
Native speaker of:

Polish
PRO pts in category: 298

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